A tech glitch Drew experiences leads to a wide-ranging discussion about tech support, automated cars, and the pros and cons of being an early adopter. Joe is not as convinced about living on the cutting edge.
Joe has done something out of character, updating to iOS 12 and Mojave with quickness. Drew asks why, and the two talk about Siri Shortcuts, dark mode, and a third-party app that makes both of their MacBook Pro setups so much sweeter.
As Joe and Drew both grow their respective businesses, their usual task management talk transitions to a similar topic: team management. Drew gives the floor to Joe, who talks about why he manages projects and not people, and how to find the right system.
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